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Clair author of truth proof but after we

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and regulations of local UFO activity

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subjects to the minutest detail but

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never documented evidence that act of

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everything in truth truth if the

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evidence is not available he looks

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further and deeper until it's found the

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truth proof polish interviewed witnesses

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for events bar strange and Accutane

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truth booth is his first published work

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with no cases as efforts to colligate a

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strange troops that surround him every

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day from the intelligent life-forms that

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which leap the vendor woman to no more

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was Paul Sinclair now presents this

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amazing collection accounts no logical

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yet down-to-earth way be variety

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to understand them so Paula witnesses

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evening thank you very much asking me to

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talk this early morning here in the UK

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on so early and good morning to where

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whatever you want to talk about here

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first time is how you got into the

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paranormal how you got into this

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anomalous research that you do

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catalyst that that started all this it's

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earth shattering these I've got here in

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children or children the girls the grown

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subject is what I am and neither is my

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wife but the support me and one of our

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daughters came yesterday 33 years old

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said to me dad dad got something to tell

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you and so a sack listening and this is

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yesterday and she said that she took her

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two children to her placing out just out

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of Scarborough here in the UK called

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rain cliff woods this is a true story

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and I don't even know what it means what

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the went to doing some outdoor pursuits

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with a mother group of people and they

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something that were about five thoughts

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of mist like a cloud is that path on a

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it was a cloud she said and so I got my

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photograph and he just

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there now I'm not saying that's because

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believe that seeing is believing about I

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think that believing is seen and the

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more the more you want to tune into this

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kind of thing be UFOs spirits whatever

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the more you will stay because he just

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seems to have been a a lifetime of

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strange occurrences for me and I believe

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to make a good story that's just not

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what I've ever done but these things

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I've been surrounding it since its

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childhood you know you're very much like

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us in that we believe when you step back

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and you look at the bigger picture all

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these different categories of the

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unknown unexplained they're all

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intertwined and connected and uh yeah

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think when it comes to the paranormal I

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think tenants have more things have more

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tendency to find us as much as we go

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looking for them that's very true you

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know I'm in other similar stories with

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accounts where I've called them the

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accounts of the flick stick werewolf um

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please listeners I don't want I don't

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want people to believe that I think

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there's something that transforms from

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man to beast and he's running around

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woodland with cutoff pants in a ripped

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shirt you know because that's the images

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it conjured up started writing truth

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profile this story had been around of it

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years it's probably the oldest document

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werewolf accounts in England I don't say

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the world because a beeline I don't know

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but it goes back to 937 and when I first

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started looking into these stories first

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of all it was part of looking into the

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big cats and the the alien big caps to

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the UK when I'd say alien

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the UK but occasionally for some reason

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concentrated area probably for one to

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two weeks and then it just drops off the

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map and you will you won't hear about

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these cats again for years now if

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they've moved area are not jumped from

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the werewolf temporarily but if they

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jumped moved area then let's show up in

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another location but they're not doing

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cactuses of animals in field you know

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she's sheep and and other animals

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written all the way through proof that

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location is key these creatures these

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animals the cats that don't belong the

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the missing M and I say men because

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Benton now I realize I've jumped from

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the flicks damn werewolf so I've just

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oh yeah oh look it into the cat's Alice

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out that a refuge had been built ninth

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at he said to protect travelers from an

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infestation of savage beasts

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it says least they'd be devoured now we

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wolves would have been prevalent in the

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UK but there's all sorts of strange

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things attached to the storage the early

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stories thing that these these bulbs are

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to the meat and just just strange little

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things I mean inflicts in itself the the

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actual village is a tiny village

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there's Flixster none Falk then and

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there so close if you put them together

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called woodland and then if you go

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village called Poonam be hund man be

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farmstead of the hand man is what it

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means now does this mean there's a

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werewolf no but you've got all these

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connotations to the dog you we've got a

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burial mount old wolf out and I've got

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people reporting this in present and I

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2015 when a famine [\h__\h] them we're

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that the the this blush grassland around

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his fact called the scars any listeners

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want the typing flexed instead you would

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find that it's the oldest archaeological

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site probably in the world but

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definitely in the UK it goes back 11,000

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Fanning's it used to be a lake called

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Lake flix to 11,000 years ago and this

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farmer trade claims that his horses were

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all rallying around in a paddock and

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agitated and upset and when he went to

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look Walter the matter he said there was

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a man covered in hair with the dog's

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head running along the Fixodent cats he

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said at one point this is a day like

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circuiting it stopped and crouched down

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I don't know why he doesn't stopped in

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the middle of the fields I mean though

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the spread for probably half a mile in

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the basin of this was a lake flexed and

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then they carried on go he kept on going

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up into the woods and then he fat

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interesting little settings that with

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the woods that he ran into there are

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burial mounds there the very least he's

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caught spell how spell how he's one of

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the burial mounds and a ghost witties

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elf Wow and then further on in at flicks

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turd stack are up on top of the Flixter

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stack stone wall there's another series

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of burial mounds called how they stood a

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barrel Cemetery and the seven there and

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in I think it was 1948

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two boys one of them's now deceased that

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he's an old man the one that's alive now

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this is the same man who told we'd never

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heard the story and it took ages

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but I want coaxing it out of him he just

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kept speaking to me as a patron every as

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I was really searching in the village

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one day what you realize I found out

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quite a lot he told me to seen this

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thing as a small bike or as a young boy

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should we say when they were out playing

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or / out the burial mounds and he claims

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that it was squatted down against a tree

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looking at something in it hands

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he didn't say paws he said Ian my friend

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we stopped and we stood looking at this

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thing we just came upon it exerting we

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were absolutely petrified and this

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whatever it was just lifted his head

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looked up what you're doing ran out of

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space on my phone so I'm deleting some

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stuff by singing dog stop at metro pcs

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you get two free phones with twice as

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much memory okay don't say bye to your

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memories switch to MetroPCS and get two

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free LG kik 20-plus phones with 32 gigs

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when you switch to lines metro pcs

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Wireless figured out 10 available in

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some areas sales tax on occluded phone

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price excludes numbers on the t-mobile

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network seized or freaky chosen terms

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and conditions and he said we ran and we

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ran until we got oh well this don't

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sound like a predator because not a

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predator in the sense that we perceive a

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predator cuz the something with a dog's

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head biped covered in hair you would

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think it would be an apex predator in

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the you okay well this thing never did

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anything and these is this this guy's

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old now he told me that his father knew

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about the flick stonewalls this

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grandfather he said he went back

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generations he said but he could only

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think of five people in the village of

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Flixster now that would tell hobbled or

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tell you any stories unless they'd seen

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it themselves is it in his words he said

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if you have not been here 50 years you

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know we don't even class you as a local

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so you know that's just touched on the

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flick stand werewolf kept you know me

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know if you want to go anywhere else

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you know what's interesting about that

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we're here in Wisconsin

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of course we have like dog man you know

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and one of the correlations is the

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connection between some of these dog man

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or you know

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deep in dog sightings and burial marks

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yeah yeah I totally agree they're the

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burial mounds seem to seem to be key and

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and I've spoke to a Native American

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Indians who in depth of told me that

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they think I've done deliberately sort

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them out that sorry my dogs coughing

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there has it depth that told me that

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they believe that the what we call the

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flick stone werewolf is a skinwalker and

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an interesting thing that they said was

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this is a creature that could live

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between worlds and it they believe that

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he that he adds the ability to actually

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come into our sphere of existence and

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function and go through whatever kind of

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things it wants to do and then go back

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into it he's old it's own realm of

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existence and I'm wondering if these

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pockets these sort of unique areas

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around the world

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for instance been tipped seams seams but

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far not good good is the wrong word

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seems to produce these accounts of the

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missing men and the stranger vanishing

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and I think that the location is key and

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the burial mounds um I'm not sure if if

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it's almost like the the ancient gods

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like Anubis and the may and God is it X

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all that what they were guardians of the

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underworld and you know the sort of the

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Dark Gods and if we if you wanted to

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stay late with that for a moment I've

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got the most unusual story from from a

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location quite close to here just about

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six miles away but it's a recent one and

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I've never heard one like it where this

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guy tells me that well it was in his 30s

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he's in his 30s now and he was he needs

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20s when this happened and what he says

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is yeah than that attack and he's

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documented and he did have a heart

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attack now he never told that the body

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why he believes he had their heart

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attack it was quite unexpected

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as in no history of our problems is is

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actually but not

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expecting him to have another heart

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attack but just quite out of the blue

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but this guy did have one and he claims

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he's told me that it was in his bedroom

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of all places one night when he woke up

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in the night and he saw two he said what

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he described as looking like Anubis

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walking through his room he said in one

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of these creatures what straight through

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the wall he said literally and I'm

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assuming that he's upstairs I haven't

417
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actually asked that antonin think it was

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a bungalow but this creature walked

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straight through the wall

420
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now listeners we cannot I can only

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deliver you what I'm told but this guy

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did have a heart attack he has kept this

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close to himself and this is what we

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believes gave him the heart attack he

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said the second one turned and looked at

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him he said he could see that he had

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seen that they've been a connection it

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had seen him and he walked towards it

429
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was he lay in his bed and put his hand

430
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in his chest and he said he had a heart

431
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attack now we're not talking put his

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hand in his chest and cut him open just

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imagine you in your hand in through the

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air now that's what happened

435
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he claims this thing's hand went to his

436
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chest and he had a heart attack now

437
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that's just a short snippet of an

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unusual story one like I've never heard

439
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before I've heard the stories of the dog

440
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men we've got a culling Kielty a great

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guy your cables a friend of mine who

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investigates the dog man I think we just

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that just plays on words to be honest I

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mean dog meant werewolf whatever we want

445
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to term I think ultimately we're dealing

446
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probably with the same thing I know

447
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there's a lot of people they live that

448
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their flesh and blood and I'm not gonna

449
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ragged with anybody's bill each system

450
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providing the respect mine the angle

451
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I'll look at that is that's from is that

452
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if it's flesh and blood here in the UK

453
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we simply don't have the areas of

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woodland to sustain such a creature

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we're not seeing the decimation of

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livestock occasional we get a deer

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killed unusual circumstances of other

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deer up in trees which suggests to me

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that isn't the work of big cats

460
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the ants are addictive to this country

461
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but I personally do not believe these

462
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accounts of werewolves and dog McNichol

463
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for want of a better work a living

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breathing flesh-and-blood creatures you

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when you get your hunters out it with

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with respect in the USA telling you that

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they shot this thing with a 30-hour six

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center mass and he had no effect it kind

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of tells you that we're not dealing with

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something that's quite normal I don't

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know what you guys think well I think

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that uh I think that would be with a lot

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of these reports that there is some of

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these cryptids may have powers or

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abilities that humans simply don't

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possess I also believe that this stuff

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may be correlated possibly there's many

478
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possibilities yeah the comes into the

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stink you know I mean what came first

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was if you think about it what was it

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the was it the satanic cults and the the

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sort of would call it devil worship

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whatever words you want to use for it or

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what they attracted to the I highly

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charged energies within that area

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because I know it Benton we have an army

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of complex RAF enter which closed

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he said the fit is that it closed in

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1968 but he did he closed in 1972 and we

490
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came to Benton lumber in 1940 meat was

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used in that time as an experimental

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radius radar station for quite a long

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time but after it closed because mobster

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this is underground it's his type one

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wrote with ten-foot walk thick walls of

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twelve books its ceiling so it designed

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to take the impact of a near-miss

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nuclear blast or thousand pounds before

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bombs but after it closed

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it was left open unattended and it was

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used from mid-1970s to mid-1990s

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intermittently by a satanic cult and

503
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this is the same area where people have

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gone missing

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I'm not attributing these cult to the

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people going missing but I think they

507
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were attracted to this area because of

508
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the the high strangeness and the unusual

509
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things that has asked him to be able to

510
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manifest from this area I mean anybody

511
00:24:08,249 --> 00:24:05,710
wants to gonna I keep sort of

512
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referencing Google or search engine just

513
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:11,039
type in RAF Bentham you will will find

514
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,289
lots of information about this I mean

515
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the walls are so beneath the bunker I

516
00:24:20,129 --> 00:24:18,039
mean it's like a lot of years since I

517
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went in it because he's sealed now or

518
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festooned afterwards with graffiti it's

519
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very explicit satanic graffiti which I

520
00:24:29,639 --> 00:24:28,480
don't think the cult ever did though

521
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they were often they would lead the

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calling curve or was it real the cult

523
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yes triumph this is the this this

524
00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:38,830
information has been the most difficult

525
00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:42,460
even harder than collecting UFO accounts

526
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:43,960
and accounts of the flick stone where

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both the people around the area do not

528
00:24:52,769 --> 00:24:49,990
want to talk about this cult were some

529
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of the people around Benton involved in

530
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this yes I believe they were Burr and I

531
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think is the reason I'm really

532
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struggling well that said I have had

533
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people come to me and tell me that in

534
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their youth they've gone down to the

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bunker and family dogs crucified to

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crupp's us down below and huge turtles

537
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as there's 904 passages below this this

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bunker huge circles of red candles all

539
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melted down and they found ropes not

540
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just pillow cases with all's cut out

541
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that well made stitched eyelets and no

542
00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:30,700
proper nose cone type robes with mouth

543
00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:33,309
opals it within the bunker so it was

544
00:25:37,999 --> 00:25:35,350
actively used for some kind of

545
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:38,009
ritualistic purpose between the

546
00:25:44,129 --> 00:25:40,809
intermittently from the mid 70s to the

547
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:44,139
mid nineties and I think that these

548
00:25:49,159 --> 00:25:46,960
people knew the importance of the lap

549
00:25:54,269 --> 00:25:49,169
and if these people because it is a

550
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,279
taboo highly secret kind of society if

551
00:25:59,610 --> 00:25:57,279
you like and and if if they've got

552
00:26:04,740 --> 00:25:59,620
contacts elsewhere they know that

553
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:04,750
all the places where the the the area

554
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:07,750
itself was capable of enhancing whatever

555
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:11,770
it was that they were working with if

556
00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:13,090
that makes sense

557
00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:17,020
I don't think Benton is one such place I

558
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,470
mean I started looking in I started

559
00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:22,480
looking into missing people at them too

560
00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:27,280
and people just literally vanish okay

561
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:30,580
we've got cliffs that span from 200 to

562
00:26:36,380 --> 00:26:33,760
400 feet in a three-mile stretch that

563
00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:36,390
look straight out to the Nazi

564
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:39,460
well-pleased people believe me anybody

565
00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:41,410
who's committed suicide in these areas I

566
00:26:47,549 --> 00:26:44,860
have not worked on not I have not looked

567
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:47,559
on in any great detail if of a case

568
00:26:51,180 --> 00:26:48,730
where there's been a history of

569
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:51,190
depression or somewhat left it notes

570
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:52,960
I've never included them in any of my

571
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:55,809
research I can't rule out that some of

572
00:27:00,750 --> 00:26:57,520
these people may have committed to

573
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:00,760
assert however that it just strikes me

574
00:27:05,070 --> 00:27:02,950
as highly unlikely you know I called

575
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:05,080
John deke you know practice tear up a

576
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:08,710
regular Walker walking stick sandwiches

577
00:27:13,169 --> 00:27:11,050
for the day looking forward to being a

578
00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:13,179
grand up for the first time excellent

579
00:27:19,049 --> 00:27:16,780
job no problems with life on that his

580
00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:19,059
family could perceived and he packed up

581
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:23,260
they need November 2004 lefty for some

582
00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:25,120
reason his count sandwiches and stick a

583
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:27,640
left in care he paid a full day's ticket

584
00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:29,910
parking there's never been singing since

585
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:34,390
you know there's a young guy 2010 18

586
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:36,850
years old decided he was gonna go to

587
00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:42,010
Benton the last known whereabouts but

588
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:43,660
his family thought he would be would be

589
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:45,610
Benton because when they looked at his

590
00:27:51,030 --> 00:27:48,070
computer had been looking at images

591
00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:51,040
below the bunker of area Hampton

592
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:53,470
and he took an interest in the bunker

593
00:27:59,419 --> 00:27:56,770
that had been singing since its 2010 you

594
00:28:02,270 --> 00:27:59,429
know March the 2nd 2010 impact is Carol

595
00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:02,280
paid for a full day's parking and

596
00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:05,080
decided to go up on the clifftops to the

597
00:28:09,450 --> 00:28:07,630
Bentson bunker but that's the last

598
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:09,460
anyone's ever seen of this poor young

599
00:28:15,730 --> 00:28:12,470
man you know I mean 7

600
00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:15,740
six one seven days later fifteen annual

601
00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:18,800
old man regular Walker his cow was found

602
00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:22,220
at the same place the RSPB nature

603
00:28:26,110 --> 00:28:24,260
reserve which is probably porch of a

604
00:28:29,530 --> 00:28:26,120
mile from the bunker there's nothing

605
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:29,540
there about that from a brick building

606
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:31,850
where visitors can go and to grab a

607
00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:33,110
coffee and that they go to the cliff

608
00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:35,750
edge if look at the gaps and the razor

609
00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:37,670
that was you know all the seabirds but

610
00:28:42,820 --> 00:28:40,220
Julie after four o'clock ease these is

611
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:42,830
absolutely desolate and this guy David

612
00:28:47,650 --> 00:28:46,010
pins on September the 9th 2010 just

613
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:47,660
parked his car up did the same thing

614
00:28:56,650 --> 00:28:50,720
paid for a day's parking never been seen

615
00:28:59,620 --> 00:28:56,660
again and it goes on and you know we've

616
00:29:04,180 --> 00:28:59,630
got we've got sort of I think not a

617
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:04,190
nineteen note sorry 2014 another chapter

618
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:05,840
I mean I'm jumping between people here

619
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,370
that there are more but if I read all

620
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:09,440
these out be I want don't mean all that

621
00:29:13,660 --> 00:29:10,250
for hours

622
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:13,670
a guy called Simon Hodgson well-known

623
00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:16,970
but within his family a VW camper and he

624
00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:18,950
was to go to various locations and just

625
00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:21,740
spend two or three days at each location

626
00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:24,920
just if that was his passion and that's

627
00:29:31,870 --> 00:29:28,840
what he liked to do Simon parked up

628
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:31,880
December the 20th paid for a day's

629
00:29:36,850 --> 00:29:35,360
parking never been seen again so crazy

630
00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:36,860
if this has been termed either way all

631
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:39,320
this is Bampton seven days later this

632
00:29:46,780 --> 00:29:41,690
160 miles away actually over the coast

633
00:29:48,130 --> 00:29:46,790
from Simon Hodgson's disappearance I

634
00:29:51,610 --> 00:29:48,140
just get this right now

635
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:51,620
edward matching then once again I bet -

636
00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:54,170
I'm sorry listeners Edward Machin walked

637
00:30:00,490 --> 00:29:57,710
up cliff Lane to the Nature Reserve he

638
00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:00,500
the reason he was on foot was because he

639
00:30:05,530 --> 00:30:02,840
took it took the journey by train the

640
00:30:07,630 --> 00:30:05,540
CCTV one of the cottages I've spoke to

641
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:07,640
the guy was the last player person to

642
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:10,910
see this man walking up the lane he told

643
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:12,530
his family were off for a day to the

644
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:14,210
Nature Reserve to look at they see

645
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:16,850
Burton and just enjoy the countryside

646
00:30:21,550 --> 00:30:19,520
he's never been seen again and then

647
00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:21,560
seven days later sixteen miles up the

648
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:24,340
coast a guy took his tool spaniel dogs

649
00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:26,240
for the day with him to

650
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:29,030
or phishing and Simon this guy was

651
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:31,370
called Nigel Savage never been seen

652
00:30:34,570 --> 00:30:31,730
again

653
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:34,580
I mean I've not gone into detail keeping

654
00:30:40,419 --> 00:30:37,490
with the men well they've had no history

655
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:40,429
of suicide depression and when people

656
00:30:43,090 --> 00:30:42,350
sir to you you know because he seems a

657
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:43,100
regular thing

658
00:30:49,780 --> 00:30:46,640
the first thing people say is well well

659
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:49,790
people commit suicide attempts and I

660
00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:52,640
don't think that takes anymore a suicide

661
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:54,350
spot than anywhere else him that you

662
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:54,950
okay

663
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:58,250
what does happen at Benton is if someone

664
00:31:01,330 --> 00:30:58,970
goes missing

665
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:01,340
if someone's what's she doing ran out of

666
00:31:10,450 --> 00:31:02,960
space on my phone so I'm deleting some

667
00:31:13,180 --> 00:31:10,460
stuff by singing dog by going by morning

668
00:31:14,830 --> 00:31:13,190
ceremony stopped at metro pcs you get

669
00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:14,840
two free phones with twice as much

670
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:16,940
memory okay don't say bye to your

671
00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:19,070
memories switch to MetroPCS and get two

672
00:31:23,470 --> 00:31:21,500
free lgk 20-plus phones with 32 gigs

673
00:31:25,210 --> 00:31:23,480
when you switch to lines let your pcs

674
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:25,220
wireless figured out coverage not

675
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:26,450
available in some areas sales tax on

676
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:27,770
include a phone price excludes numbers

677
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:28,910
on the t-mobile network C store forty

678
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:31,400
chosen terms and conditions' vanishes

679
00:31:35,890 --> 00:31:33,890
from the cliff tops instead of stabbing

680
00:31:39,910 --> 00:31:35,900
the police looking for you you get the

681
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:39,920
police the SE rescue you get Coast Guard

682
00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:42,559
you get all manner of people you get

683
00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:44,840
Fire Brigade looking in the bunker the

684
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:47,270
you know the RF bunker so it becomes a

685
00:31:52,030 --> 00:31:49,730
news item more than it would if someone

686
00:31:53,770 --> 00:31:52,040
went missing just in town here well

687
00:31:57,660 --> 00:31:53,780
you'd only have the police searching for

688
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:57,670
them so I'm not with that theory and

689
00:32:04,570 --> 00:32:00,320
these people don't seem to have had any

690
00:32:08,430 --> 00:32:04,580
any particular reason to go missing but

691
00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:08,440
also Kevin in this area there are

692
00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:11,420
aircraft that vanish just off the coast

693
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:13,790
in between ten and twenty five miles off

694
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:16,640
Lumpur and Benton I mean a lot of times

695
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,130
the aircraft are found or they crash in

696
00:32:22,930 --> 00:32:21,200
strange circumstances I mean they don't

697
00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:22,940
know if you want to talk touch on any of

698
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:26,360
that in your next part of the show yes

699
00:32:31,330 --> 00:32:29,090
actually we are going to take our first

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commercial break you are listening to

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00:32:42,730 --> 00:32:40,270
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truth but before we bring him back on

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pretty much self-explanatory if you have

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to our ally iron chat room where you can

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post questions and make comments very

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well pass those along next week we will

733
00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:02,690
have oncologists Derek Tyler and Deborah

734
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Jane East's and we will talk about their

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book alien contact the difficult truth

736
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:11,330
and we have so much to talk about with

737
00:34:16,060 --> 00:34:14,240
you all just a bunch of stuff that we're

738
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:16,070
talking off air and we have questions

739
00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:19,100
coming from chat anyone you want to

740
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:25,070
start Paul well so why don't we start

741
00:34:29,710 --> 00:34:28,130
with one of the questions yeah okay

742
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:29,720
we'll start with the clea we have a

743
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:32,090
couple of questions to ask and very

744
00:34:36,430 --> 00:34:33,679
quickly I want to say a quick shout out

745
00:34:39,460 --> 00:34:36,440
to everybody in chat who shows up every

746
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:39,470
Friday and we thank you for taking your

747
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:42,409
time to come and and hang out with us

748
00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:44,510
and hear what we have to say on what our

749
00:34:49,930 --> 00:34:48,230
guests have to say ok so the first

750
00:34:52,930 --> 00:34:49,940
question for you

751
00:34:55,539 --> 00:34:52,940
based on your experiences what is your

752
00:34:59,289 --> 00:34:55,549
general theory of reality as it exists

753
00:35:00,490 --> 00:34:59,299
on planet earth what is going on in very

754
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:00,500
broad strokes

755
00:35:05,319 --> 00:35:02,930
the view from six miles up so to speak

756
00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:05,329
have you developed a sort of general

757
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:07,910
unified theory of the world from the

758
00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:11,569
paranormal perspective wow that's quite

759
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:15,980
a questions in a word I don't think I

760
00:35:22,329 --> 00:35:18,890
know what's going on I'm I'm sorry to

761
00:35:24,839 --> 00:35:22,339
sound so dumb when I say that I don't I

762
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:24,849
think people will believe that they do

763
00:35:30,549 --> 00:35:28,160
probably wrong because whatever wherever

764
00:35:33,339 --> 00:35:30,559
we see whatever seems to be interacting

765
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:33,349
with us it seems to be able to turn on a

766
00:35:40,210 --> 00:35:37,490
sixpence and throw up another another

767
00:35:42,279 --> 00:35:40,220
quirky kind of belief system

768
00:35:44,140 --> 00:35:42,289
I don't believe everything's ultimately

769
00:35:46,299 --> 00:35:44,150
connected and when you say from six

770
00:35:48,579 --> 00:35:46,309
miles up what I think whatever is

771
00:35:50,410 --> 00:35:48,589
happening although we would probably out

772
00:35:52,059 --> 00:35:50,420
getting visited but when you look up in

773
00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:52,069
there up in the sky you see all those

774
00:35:56,319 --> 00:35:54,920
stars we we can't believe that we are

775
00:35:57,940 --> 00:35:56,329
ultimately the only thing of

776
00:36:00,339 --> 00:35:57,950
intelligence if you can call us

777
00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:00,349
intelligent but I believe everything

778
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:05,299
that's happening around the world in a

779
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:07,490
crazy kind of way sort of UFO was

780
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:09,710
paranormal related it's already here

781
00:36:15,809 --> 00:36:12,710
it's not traveling from space I believe

782
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:15,819
it's more of an interdimensional type

783
00:36:21,460 --> 00:36:18,710
existence have been if I'm on radio 1

784
00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:21,470
and video tools at the just the turn of

785
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:23,960
the dial I think that is probably where

786
00:36:29,650 --> 00:36:26,450
we are with this is it coming from other

787
00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:29,660
planets yeah it could be and but most

788
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,099
what's to say that these other

789
00:36:35,529 --> 00:36:33,520
existences haven't developed

790
00:36:38,349 --> 00:36:35,539
technologies where they don't have to

791
00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:38,359
fly because they can they can it's just

792
00:36:43,779 --> 00:36:41,240
a turn of a dial and they're there I

793
00:36:46,450 --> 00:36:43,789
don't I haven't really got an answer for

794
00:36:47,799 --> 00:36:46,460
this because I don't think any of us out

795
00:36:49,059 --> 00:36:47,809
I mean the may be that there may be some

796
00:36:50,769 --> 00:36:49,069
people that perceive it I mean I've

797
00:36:53,799 --> 00:36:50,779
spoken to people here in the UK that

798
00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:53,809
talk about different types of aliens and

799
00:36:58,990 --> 00:36:56,599
they talk about different planets and

800
00:37:00,880 --> 00:36:59,000
I'm not in a position to say you're

801
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:00,890
right or you're wrong I simply don't

802
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:03,180
know I'll all I know is natural

803
00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:05,640
the things that I've interacted with me

804
00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:08,100
well I don't know well I don't even know

805
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:09,540
that I've gone even a fraction into

806
00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:11,370
answering that great question

807
00:37:16,850 --> 00:37:14,430
sorry if I haven't I

808
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:16,860
I think that's a good answer it is I

809
00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:19,290
mean yes spot-on I mean that's why we're

810
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,420
in this yo world searching for answers

811
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:23,040
and the more you learn the more

812
00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:24,720
questions you have so it's a

813
00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:27,390
never-ending cycle of not playing what's

814
00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:29,060
up

815
00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:32,840
and speaking of questions we have more

816
00:37:39,790 --> 00:37:36,390
so your next question could it be that

817
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:39,800
these are a intergalactic and/or

818
00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:42,420
interdimensional beings that are coming

819
00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:45,270
into our physical realm and could it be

820
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:48,300
these travelers have anything to do with

821
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:51,060
the disturbing attacks we have seen all

822
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:55,050
over our world could it be that the

823
00:38:00,110 --> 00:37:57,690
dimensional beings another good question

824
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:00,120
yet I think they are yeah that is

825
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:02,250
exactly what I think they are and that

826
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:04,680
and attacks all over the world I mean I

827
00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:07,170
take you that you're touching on the

828
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:10,020
terrorist type attacks I couldn't

829
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:12,690
possibly say I mean it's possible that

830
00:38:16,220 --> 00:38:14,610
these dark influences because nothing

831
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:16,230
seems to be good or if I just

832
00:38:20,060 --> 00:38:18,210
concentrated on them - I won't go there

833
00:38:22,820 --> 00:38:20,070
I'll stay with the question does not

834
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,830
seem to be much good coming out of this

835
00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:24,720
area the things that seem to be

836
00:38:31,070 --> 00:38:28,440
happening the the the stories I'm told

837
00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:31,080
they're not good so if these will call

838
00:38:37,850 --> 00:38:34,550
them interdimensional beings ah

839
00:38:39,350 --> 00:38:37,860
infiltrating a sphere of existence and

840
00:38:42,860 --> 00:38:39,360
we're not seeing of things just in this

841
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:42,870
small locality the possibility that

842
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:45,210
they're influencing other things around

843
00:38:49,340 --> 00:38:47,370
the world but I suppose there's a

844
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:49,350
possibility I don't want to link them to

845
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,490
terrorism I don't want to link them to

846
00:38:58,190 --> 00:38:55,200
so anything in particular but I would

847
00:39:03,110 --> 00:38:58,200
not rule it out that the the - that's

848
00:39:05,930 --> 00:39:03,120
the the the the unsavory aspect of this

849
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:05,940
subject shall we say will be influencing

850
00:39:13,870 --> 00:39:09,930
other things yes all right so our next

851
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:13,880
question the hexagram had stones a

852
00:39:19,770 --> 00:39:17,110
researcher saw a wolf or dog

853
00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:19,780
and after having these stones in her

854
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:22,630
house could this be related to all of

855
00:39:28,350 --> 00:39:26,650
these others yeah see where she's coming

856
00:39:30,270 --> 00:39:28,360
from with that I didn't know what she

857
00:39:30,810 --> 00:39:30,280
the questions sort of filled me for a

858
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:30,820
moment

859
00:39:35,010 --> 00:39:33,370
yeah but do you think that cause that

860
00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:35,020
could come to what I was speaking about

861
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:36,760
earlier when I said I don't think it's

862
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:38,710
seeding is believing it's believing is

863
00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:39,250
seeing

864
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:42,670
and these stones I wonder I wonder if it

865
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:44,710
put us in the zone and pause it were in

866
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:47,890
a in a mindset where we're able to tube

867
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:55,290
in so this kind of thing I think so yeah

868
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:06,120
okay so the next question we have what

869
00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:09,280
is the strangest incident you have come

870
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:12,820
across the most disturbing and the most

871
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:16,690
sublime okay good question this I mean

872
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:18,010
you'll have to stop me because this

873
00:40:20,670 --> 00:40:19,330
would last a while this was the

874
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:20,680
strangest things I've ever come across

875
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:24,510
that what has been my not alive and

876
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:28,030
waking up with all Zima I arms and all

877
00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:31,510
was in the back not little pinpricks not

878
00:40:37,470 --> 00:40:33,340
even cigarette burns I'm talking about

879
00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:37,480
holes going to bed and watching looking

880
00:40:40,890 --> 00:40:38,950
at the landing well laid on a mattress

881
00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:40,900
when I first started restoring this

882
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:43,300
house 25 years ago and laid on a

883
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:45,520
mattress at the top of the house with my

884
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:46,960
oldest daughter at the other side of

885
00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:48,550
MCUs which was to come up and work up

886
00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:50,830
this house until we could have a table

887
00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:51,670
to the living

888
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:54,040
just a great big old Victorian house and

889
00:40:57,900 --> 00:40:55,930
looking at the spindles on the mahogany

890
00:41:01,110 --> 00:40:57,910
staircase and telling myself I painted

891
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:01,120
of white not and not being asleep and

892
00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:02,560
then looking at my daughter and she is

893
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:05,470
asleep so I know I'm wide awake watching

894
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:07,630
the spindles go so why they look like

895
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:09,970
fluorescent tubes and then watching the

896
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:12,070
fluorescent tubes just go bang into a

897
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:15,040
blast of white light then waking up with

898
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,730
all's it near arts that's kinda the some

899
00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:20,800
of the most bizarre things that that

900
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:23,800
have happened to me or and I mean we

901
00:41:28,350 --> 00:41:25,750
just told you that quirky little story

902
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:28,360
about the guy with the Anubis and what

903
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:30,010
he claims these are these are incredible

904
00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:31,410
stories book

905
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,180
I've seen and experienced some strange

906
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:36,400
things looking into the missing men a

907
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:39,040
guy stopped me and my wife on the street

908
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:41,620
and was telling me that I was bringing

909
00:41:47,370 --> 00:41:45,040
down the light I mean literally it was

910
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:47,380
waiting for us it got his shirt off on a

911
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:51,730
cold day crazy cold day and he is a long

912
00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:53,230
story and I don't know whether we need

913
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:54,700
to go there but you were the questions

914
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:57,190
book this guy's shouting I'm bringing

915
00:42:01,350 --> 00:42:00,160
down the light and I didn't know what he

916
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:01,360
was on about I thought we would talk

917
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:03,370
about the sunlight I thought was a cold

918
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:04,660
day but it's quite a Sunni and I

919
00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:07,330
wouldn't enjoy the Sun and we went did a

920
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:08,590
bit of shopping we went to have a phone

921
00:42:12,210 --> 00:42:10,540
unlocked to be honest with you and on

922
00:42:13,890 --> 00:42:12,220
the way back round twenty minutes later

923
00:42:16,530 --> 00:42:13,900
these guys at the other side of the road

924
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:16,540
sat on a wall with a wraparound jumper

925
00:42:22,110 --> 00:42:18,970
on sorry a very tag fitting Brown jump

926
00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:22,120
on and wraparound sunglasses and he's in

927
00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:24,100
texture if I'd have had time to disco

928
00:42:28,530 --> 00:42:25,420
through this story what it looked like

929
00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:28,540
it looked like an action man there was

930
00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:30,430
no vascularity to his body there was no

931
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:32,680
veins to be seen yet there was defined

932
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:35,980
pectorals and abdominals and his skin

933
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:38,800
looked like spam it was plaster stealing

934
00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:42,400
so strange and and as I approach with my

935
00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:44,860
wife and I'm not I don't shy away from

936
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:45,790
conflict

937
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:47,050
I don't be looking for it but I don't

938
00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:49,810
shy away from it and as I approach with

939
00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:51,100
my what I could got his back to us I

940
00:42:55,830 --> 00:42:53,470
said to Mary I said oh my god that guy's

941
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:55,840
there all kept shouting us and he turned

942
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,330
around before I thought even got to him

943
00:43:02,370 --> 00:43:00,400
and it was you know what you're doing

944
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:02,380
you're bringing down the light you have

945
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:05,230
to stop and for some reason I couldn't

946
00:43:08,970 --> 00:43:07,090
get away from it you're a little bit

947
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:08,980
taller than me I'm not tall one in five

948
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:12,880
foot six we'll say five eight and it

949
00:43:19,170 --> 00:43:17,200
stood there's a three of us and he kept

950
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,180
repeating and bringing down the light

951
00:43:23,580 --> 00:43:20,800
and you were talking about other things

952
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,590
and as I'm answering him God knows why I

953
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:26,560
didn't go the way is it's turning

954
00:43:31,020 --> 00:43:29,350
everything I say into inside out into

955
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:31,030
riddles I just couldn't beat him

956
00:43:35,970 --> 00:43:33,570
forwards and it was a horrible

957
00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:35,980
uncomfortable situation and I couldn't

958
00:43:39,630 --> 00:43:38,140
see his eye he's now trying gauge how

959
00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:39,640
old he was but I couldn't tell because

960
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:43,240
he'd got ball spamming [\h__\h] spam

961
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,800
coloured skin

962
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:46,720
weird and at what point you've reached

963
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:49,210
out and touch Mary on the shoulder and

964
00:43:52,770 --> 00:43:51,280
they were sort of a little one-second

965
00:43:55,170 --> 00:43:52,780
understanding that if I grab your hand

966
00:43:57,180 --> 00:43:55,180
me and you're in conflict I don't know

967
00:44:00,990 --> 00:43:57,190
what it was and but it went I'm not

968
00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:01,000
talking to her I'm talking to you you

969
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:02,500
don't have to stop bringing down the

970
00:44:06,510 --> 00:44:05,170
light now I didn't know what it meant

971
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:06,520
and we walked away

972
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,050
oh I said he would he said he lived in

973
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:10,480
ricky'll because I did ask him and he

974
00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:13,210
done a pushbike that was packed at the

975
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:14,200
other side of the road

976
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:16,690
my wife commented afterwards I never saw

977
00:44:20,910 --> 00:44:18,370
the back because I'd got my back to it

978
00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:20,920
that bike had no brakes he didn't ever

979
00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:23,560
on the side of the angle but we didn't

980
00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:26,740
know where wrinkle was or earlier this

981
00:44:32,490 --> 00:44:28,360
evening when we spoke about the missing

982
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:32,500
men Simon Hodgson vanished on the 20th

983
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:35,530
December 2014 so it gives you an idea of

984
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:37,390
the time of year when this guy talked to

985
00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:39,010
me because he spoke to me before Simon

986
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:40,660
Hodgson vanished

987
00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:44,080
Simon looks from rickel now Simon wasn't

988
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,820
this man because I've seen pictures of

989
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:48,400
sad poster but I couldn't get over the

990
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:50,890
connection that this stranger this kept

991
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:52,780
saying bringing down the light told me

992
00:44:57,420 --> 00:44:54,850
lived a trickle which is a small village

993
00:45:01,620 --> 00:44:57,430
50 miles away and then my wife said it's

994
00:45:03,380 --> 00:45:01,630
the backup not didn't have brakes now my

995
00:45:06,750 --> 00:45:03,390
wife believes that this man was an alien

996
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,760
that was exact words for Mary to say

997
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:08,400
something like that is unusual because

998
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,720
you won't find her immersed in this

999
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:12,640
subject like I am and he threatened her

1000
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:14,950
and the guy at the barbershop over the

1001
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:16,930
road came out the day later and told us

1002
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,490
that they'd be observing and he was

1003
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:20,560
waiting for us this is because soon as

1004
00:45:24,690 --> 00:45:22,480
we came into our home which had be

1005
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:24,700
probably on billiards away it looked

1006
00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:26,410
took the street watched his walking down

1007
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,840
and started shouting what that was all

1008
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:30,880
about I don't know

1009
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,610
but strange experiences I think my life

1010
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:36,400
has been filled with these kind of

1011
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:39,760
strange experiences sorry for laboring

1012
00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:43,770
on that question no that's that's

1013
00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:47,350
excellent we caught up with questions

1014
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:51,220
pretty much except for one there's been

1015
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:53,910
a few questions and comments regarding

1016
00:45:58,530 --> 00:45:57,370
as she talked with David flighty missing

1017
00:46:03,330 --> 00:45:58,540
author or

1018
00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:03,340
one or missing for 130 but ladies what

1019
00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:07,660
did you say I talked with him yes now

1020
00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:08,920
was the question they had wondered they

1021
00:46:11,970 --> 00:46:10,600
were wondering because of the

1022
00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:11,980
correlation between the missing people

1023
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:15,340
you look into and the fact that David

1024
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:18,730
ladies also looks into missing person

1025
00:46:22,650 --> 00:46:20,830
yeah they were wondering if you've got

1026
00:46:25,650 --> 00:46:22,660
if you guys have ever talked because

1027
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:25,660
they think I should compare notes well

1028
00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:28,210
on Facebook I did join it the missing

1029
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:32,200
fall on one page and I placed a I've got

1030
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:33,280
it in front of me funnily enough I

1031
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:38,250
placed a scan of a newspaper copy from

1032
00:46:44,070 --> 00:46:41,410
1992 well actually January at the 7th

1033
00:46:46,590 --> 00:46:44,080
1993 the top of a man called Raymond

1034
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:46,600
Johnson or went missing in action could

1035
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:49,030
strange circumstances off Pemberton Lane

1036
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:50,410
here in Bridlington

1037
00:46:55,260 --> 00:46:51,670
I just thought it would be interesting

1038
00:46:57,870 --> 00:46:55,270
for people and I placed it on page so 10

1039
00:46:59,700 --> 00:46:57,880
in the evening of left if then I never

1040
00:47:02,640 --> 00:46:59,710
thought no more about it and when I come

1041
00:47:04,110 --> 00:47:02,650
to bet that PC was still on I'll get to

1042
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:04,120
the story if you want in a second

1043
00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:06,010
and what happened was I did got a

1044
00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:08,350
message from David and a little bit

1045
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:10,120
midnight and my wife had gone to bed and

1046
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:12,850
I didn't have the information at all

1047
00:47:16,620 --> 00:47:15,220
I've done must scan the document and I

1048
00:47:17,850 --> 00:47:16,630
didn't have all the information to hand

1049
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:17,860
and I was just about to pull the piece

1050
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:20,410
shut the PC down and he wanted to know

1051
00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:24,400
some information so I tried off the top

1052
00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:26,560
of my head my burning mind my wife had

1053
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:27,820
just gone to bed to give him this

1054
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:29,890
information and assasin waited for 20

1055
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:32,650
minutes I'm sorry this isn't to sound

1056
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:34,990
disrespectful to anybody if he does but

1057
00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:36,310
I've just got the cell you know it's a

1058
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:38,020
satin waited for 20 minutes and I got a

1059
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:40,330
reply saying I don't even know but

1060
00:47:43,940 --> 00:47:42,190
replied probably two or three words and

1061
00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:43,950
I tried to answer that and he got late

1062
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:47,980
it got into early hours and I couldn't I

1063
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:49,870
couldn't answer the the information

1064
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:52,030
because I'm sat in the darkness and all

1065
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:53,470
my paperwork's in other room and it's

1066
00:47:59,070 --> 00:47:56,770
not daytime for me and I think David

1067
00:48:02,340 --> 00:47:59,080
said I'll forget it I'll put I'll get

1068
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:02,350
somebody onto it words to that effect

1069
00:48:06,330 --> 00:48:04,690
and that's the only and that's the only

1070
00:48:09,450 --> 00:48:06,340
dealings of that with with David I mean

1071
00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:09,460
I'm sure he's a great guy and say this I

1072
00:48:12,860 --> 00:48:11,320
admire his work when I also admire

1073
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:12,870
Steffie always work

1074
00:48:20,010 --> 00:48:17,110
immensely and I just briefly mentioned

1075
00:48:22,410 --> 00:48:20,020
Derek and Derek and Deborah Derek Tyler

1076
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:22,420
yeah

1077
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:24,190
your guess next week Ellen contact the

1078
00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:25,690
difficult truth I've read the book it's

1079
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:27,700
absolutely fabulous

1080
00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:29,290
you know I've just like to give day

1081
00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:31,780
there it could a big thumbs up but I

1082
00:48:34,740 --> 00:48:33,400
couldn't stay on this case of Raymond

1083
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:34,750
Johnson for a while unless you've got

1084
00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:39,040
more questions we have questions all

1085
00:48:42,930 --> 00:48:41,350
right with the questions that you

1086
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:42,940
believe it's possible that what roles

1087
00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:47,530
may exist and some level yes most

1088
00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:48,040
definitely

1089
00:48:53,310 --> 00:48:50,790
I'm also gonna play on words these just

1090
00:48:57,540 --> 00:48:53,320
locations I don't know where the portals

1091
00:49:00,330 --> 00:48:57,550
move or whether a good feeling is that

1092
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:00,340
if you can call it a portal these areas

1093
00:49:04,860 --> 00:49:02,530
and I know I've said this before already

1094
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:04,870
thing I exist and that's why they're

1095
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:07,570
throwing up these these anomalies so if

1096
00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:09,280
you want to call them portals then

1097
00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:12,190
bottles is an excellent word because I

1098
00:49:15,450 --> 00:49:13,660
don't know I can't give another word

1099
00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:15,460
two-column are just you know we're just

1100
00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:17,470
these areas are just capable of

1101
00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:19,180
producing these events of high

1102
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:21,640
strangeness and I just happened to be

1103
00:49:26,010 --> 00:49:24,310
lucky or unlucky I don't know if I

1104
00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:26,020
banish I've been unlucky people and

1105
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:27,220
you've got to talk about me at some

1106
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:30,250
point lucky to be able to research in

1107
00:49:35,490 --> 00:49:33,250
this area or around Benton lumber East

1108
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:35,500
York where we seem to have one such area

1109
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:37,570
so to answer the question yeah I do

1110
00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:39,910
believe that if you wanna calm portals

1111
00:49:45,470 --> 00:49:42,190
yeah ability that they're very real and

1112
00:49:49,110 --> 00:49:45,480
this these anomalies exist

1113
00:49:50,850 --> 00:49:49,120
what about ley lines yeah definitely I

1114
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:50,860
don't know I don't know the connection

1115
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:54,400
is but the D field next to Harry F

1116
00:50:04,290 --> 00:50:01,710
six miles from here we've got the rude

1117
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:04,300
rude stone monolith which is which is on

1118
00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:05,650
a little line and that's the lad you

1119
00:50:10,550 --> 00:50:08,380
stand in stone in for you a if you go

1120
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:10,560
from the road stone monolith and run of

1121
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:13,150
ruler through a map you will come to a

1122
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:16,210
burial mound called Willie how now that

1123
00:50:21,630 --> 00:50:18,310
is probably the most famous burial mound

1124
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:21,640
in the UK at Burton Fleming and that's

1125
00:50:26,550 --> 00:50:23,890
attributed to stories of elves and

1126
00:50:28,830 --> 00:50:26,560
fairies and and if you put it on

1127
00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:28,840
that map and run that line all the way

1128
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:31,480
through that takes you directly to sharp

1129
00:50:36,030 --> 00:50:33,970
how where the Flixster werewolf story

1130
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:36,040
comes from from with the thule guys the

1131
00:50:43,290 --> 00:50:40,240
two young boys in 1948 you know it's a

1132
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:43,300
and strangely enough the RAF bases but

1133
00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:45,250
these at the side of the field called

1134
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:49,060
the plays RAF stack stonewalled where

1135
00:50:53,970 --> 00:50:51,520
the flick stand werewolf stories come

1136
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:53,980
from that's the oldest operational area

1137
00:50:57,450 --> 00:50:55,930
base in the world and it's still

1138
00:50:59,820 --> 00:50:57,460
operating and that's that stat stand

1139
00:51:01,920 --> 00:50:59,830
wall where you know I'm not saying that

1140
00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:01,930
there's a connection and the bases are

1141
00:51:05,310 --> 00:51:03,430
built around these areas of high

1142
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:05,320
strangeness it could just be coincidence

1143
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:08,170
but ya don't believe that ley lines and

1144
00:51:14,190 --> 00:51:10,810
highly charged land seemed to I know we

1145
00:51:16,890 --> 00:51:14,200
can't see this but they seem to they

1146
00:51:20,610 --> 00:51:16,900
seem to be prominent in these areas so

1147
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:20,620
yeah absolutely brilliant I believe I

1148
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:22,210
believe that I don't know why and I

1149
00:51:33,450 --> 00:51:28,410
don't know how do you study crop circles

1150
00:51:36,210 --> 00:51:33,460
no but I have seen one that I believe

1151
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:36,220
was hundred percent genuine because one

1152
00:51:40,830 --> 00:51:38,350
of our daughters used to be engaged to a

1153
00:51:44,670 --> 00:51:40,840
guy I'll not say his name but they owned

1154
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:44,680
a farm in Ralston and he's dad he's dead

1155
00:51:49,410 --> 00:51:48,010
what is this guy's father was was and

1156
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:49,420
still is probably a very prominent man

1157
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:51,760
as in a toast for the United Nations on

1158
00:51:59,850 --> 00:51:56,770
GM crops and things and he because of my

1159
00:52:01,950 --> 00:51:59,860
interest I got to see a crop circle that

1160
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:01,960
no one else got to City providing I

1161
00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:03,760
didn't share it with people and didn't

1162
00:52:08,580 --> 00:52:06,190
get people all over the land making the

1163
00:52:11,130 --> 00:52:08,590
farmland a thoroughfare and it was

1164
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:11,140
nothing he was 60 foot round circle in

1165
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:12,850
out in the middle of nowhere that had

1166
00:52:17,610 --> 00:52:15,040
appeared overnight so I believe that

1167
00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:17,620
there is some reality to the crop circle

1168
00:52:22,620 --> 00:52:20,440
phenomenon if you've got two minutes I'd

1169
00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:22,630
love to tell you this story about Wilkes

1170
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:25,060
Thorpe and a crop circle because I

1171
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,450
believe it's interesting and what I'm

1172
00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:30,160
researching at most mark the case go

1173
00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:32,760
that they will stop UFO incident and

1174
00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:37,060
goes back to 2009 and during the

1175
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:39,220
research have spoken to a bit farmer or

1176
00:52:42,750 --> 00:52:40,030
work all lives

1177
00:52:44,910 --> 00:52:42,760
at a farm in will stop and it's a very

1178
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:44,920
small area will thought I don't want to

1179
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,810
say name it and in case anybody contacts

1180
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:48,160
him because it's took me ages to get

1181
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:50,830
speaking anyway we touched on crop

1182
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:52,870
circles and he pointed over to his field

1183
00:52:57,900 --> 00:52:55,090
and he said the crop circle appeared

1184
00:52:59,490 --> 00:52:57,910
there and this was quite interesting I

1185
00:53:01,170 --> 00:52:59,500
said he said he was in an old combine

1186
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:01,180
with no air conditioning and it was the

1187
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:04,240
sweltering hot day and he said in the

1188
00:53:07,290 --> 00:53:04,750
cab

1189
00:53:09,180 --> 00:53:07,300
he had a liver colored spaniel curled up

1190
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:09,190
in the cabbie said me really Mobley said

1191
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:10,810
book you know if they saw a wrapping to

1192
00:53:14,340 --> 00:53:12,250
hair and he wants an explosion act he

1193
00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:14,350
let the dog go he said what this crop

1194
00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:16,660
circle it appeared I said did you tell

1195
00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:18,580
anyone instead did I bloody early so I'm

1196
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:20,320
not telling nobody does that I want

1197
00:53:24,180 --> 00:53:22,540
people on my lung now this isn't the old

1198
00:53:26,660 --> 00:53:24,190
calm behind he says he said well

1199
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:26,670
somewhat strange happened said ok bond

1200
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:29,530
he said one of the head of the combined

1201
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:33,490
hit the crop circle the Spaniel dog sat

1202
00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:36,430
up bolt rat up right and started howling

1203
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:39,790
all the way through the crop circle he

1204
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:42,190
said it was a clap cold it was cold

1205
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:44,800
inside the circle and this cap of the

1206
00:53:50,550 --> 00:53:48,250
the calm bangles absolutely boiling

1207
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:50,560
before that point he said it took him

1208
00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:54,640
three sweeps of the field to get to

1209
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:56,680
cover the crop circle he says it eat in

1210
00:54:02,250 --> 00:53:58,810
every time the head of the crop the

1211
00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:02,260
combine hit the crop circle the dog sat

1212
00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:03,430
up and hold

1213
00:54:07,710 --> 00:54:05,740
now that animal you not telling me that

1214
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:07,720
that animal did not perceive something

1215
00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:09,790
highly unusual within the crop circle

1216
00:54:15,330 --> 00:54:12,820
and I'm not sure if people take an

1217
00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:15,340
animals into crop circles to gauge any

1218
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:17,460
awareness before they must have done I

1219
00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:20,890
would think so I don't specifically

1220
00:54:25,650 --> 00:54:23,830
remember anything that comes to mind but

1221
00:54:28,350 --> 00:54:25,660
certainly won't be unheard of if you

1222
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:28,360
think about it I mean animals sense more

1223
00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:30,370
than we do that's way more than we do

1224
00:54:33,540 --> 00:54:32,230
yeah I just thought that we're an

1225
00:54:36,510 --> 00:54:33,550
interesting story I mean I don't know

1226
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:36,520
where the the listener wanted me to go

1227
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:39,010
with the question on crop circles but I

1228
00:54:42,990 --> 00:54:40,720
do believe that some of them are real I

1229
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:43,000
don't know what's creating them but it's

1230
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:45,370
something outside of our visual

1231
00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:46,750
perception probably it's something

1232
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:49,780
outside of our sphere our intelligence

1233
00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:51,490
or something that works and operates on

1234
00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:53,140
a level that we don't understand

1235
00:54:57,870 --> 00:54:55,720
because whatever it is is I lay it loose

1236
00:54:59,790 --> 00:54:57,880
it yeah

1237
00:55:01,680 --> 00:54:59,800
what convinced me was the physical

1238
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:01,690
evidence of power yeah

1239
00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:05,200
Starks some of them popcorn yeah

1240
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:08,260
they banned in certain spots yeah well

1241
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:10,570
it's so interesting you know and I don't

1242
00:55:14,310 --> 00:55:12,070
know if any listeners Oh yourselves even

1243
00:55:17,850 --> 00:55:14,320
will remember the the oldest star Maria

1244
00:55:20,970 --> 00:55:17,860
in the UK or Patrick Moore he it was

1245
00:55:22,770 --> 00:55:20,980
very much against the the belief in UFOs

1246
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:22,780
and things visiting from other planets

1247
00:55:28,530 --> 00:55:26,110
uh me me just old crushed the astronomer

1248
00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:28,540
renew his job he's passed away now but

1249
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:31,900
he unwittingly wrote about crop circles

1250
00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:35,890
in 1963 unknowingly he wrote a fabulous

1251
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:38,950
per paper and if I need any listeners

1252
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:43,210
not to type in craters 1963 you will

1253
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:45,490
find information related to craters that

1254
00:55:52,530 --> 00:55:48,540
appeared all around the UK in July of

1255
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,540
1963 and of course I looked into sounds

1256
00:55:56,430 --> 00:55:54,400
looked him I didn't look into a crater I

1257
00:55:58,410 --> 00:55:56,440
looked into the research because a

1258
00:56:01,290 --> 00:55:58,420
greater appeared a flat bruh on one at

1259
00:56:03,810 --> 00:56:01,300
Benton in 1963 and the interesting thing

1260
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:03,820
was Patrick Moore was brought in by the

1261
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:06,880
army by the mo D but they were visited

1262
00:56:10,830 --> 00:56:08,500
every one of these craters that appeared

1263
00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:10,840
all over the UK Patrick Moore was

1264
00:56:16,410 --> 00:56:13,960
invited to dispel the myth of little

1265
00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:16,420
green men as it said at the turn but

1266
00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:20,440
inadvertently he wrote about circular

1267
00:56:26,420 --> 00:56:22,830
depressions that were appearing in crops

1268
00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:26,430
when the craters were appearing and and

1269
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:30,430
the strange form the strange way that

1270
00:56:34,410 --> 00:56:33,040
the crop had bent and Patrick Moore

1271
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:34,420
wrote about all this I don't really

1272
00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:36,490
think he realized what he was writing or

1273
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:40,030
I mean back in 1963 I suppose we did

1274
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:42,070
have crop circles a book as I said

1275
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:43,510
Patrick mama writing about him

1276
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:46,600
and these craters genuinely did appear

1277
00:56:50,790 --> 00:56:48,370
all over the UK and we didn't have the

1278
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:50,800
media coverage what we've got today so

1279
00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:53,680
if some random group of people troubling

1280
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:56,860
100 miles to 150 to 200 miles up the

1281
00:57:00,810 --> 00:56:59,200
country to created a creator

1282
00:57:02,970 --> 00:57:00,820
I've been coming back to Benton and

1283
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:02,980
creating one the one appeared on a farm

1284
00:57:06,820 --> 00:57:06,490
called the hood far in Joe on July 17 19

1285
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:06,830
6

1286
00:57:12,730 --> 00:57:09,530
in common hood to cook a word for his

1287
00:57:15,460 --> 00:57:12,740
father he's an old man now and when he

1288
00:57:17,380 --> 00:57:15,470
came back the during the day it

1289
00:57:19,180 --> 00:57:17,390
straighten up appear the Army's

1290
00:57:21,850 --> 00:57:19,190
explanation for it was that lightning

1291
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:21,860
that hit a gas pocket on the cliff top

1292
00:57:27,250 --> 00:57:24,410
and caused the crater which put a lot of

1293
00:57:29,230 --> 00:57:27,260
rubbish and quite honestly and Colin

1294
00:57:33,070 --> 00:57:29,240
thought that and someone contacted me

1295
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:33,080
yeah years later a guy I'm not going to

1296
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:35,090
say his name but an old Gale used to

1297
00:57:39,250 --> 00:57:36,770
work for a company called Clifford watts

1298
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:39,260
and it worked for them for 28 years and

1299
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:40,730
he told me that another one appeared at

1300
00:57:46,750 --> 00:57:43,810
Benton but he never spoke about it in

1301
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:46,760
1963 because of the ridicule factor that

1302
00:57:53,530 --> 00:57:49,730
coming hood received for getting the

1303
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:53,540
papers about the hood crater so have you

1304
00:57:59,350 --> 00:57:57,650
got another question well we are we got

1305
00:58:04,000 --> 00:57:59,360
two minutes left before the sugars

1306
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:04,010
finish okay so yeah I know these two

1307
00:58:09,970 --> 00:58:05,930
call it the mowing devil way back in the

1308
00:58:12,790 --> 00:58:09,980
day the old folk or some of the crop

1309
00:58:16,410 --> 00:58:12,800
circles do you have any links that you

1310
00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:16,420
like to share well if anybody wants to

1311
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:18,590
express any interest I used to have a

1312
00:58:25,660 --> 00:58:22,190
website called ILF UFO intelligent light

1313
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:25,670
forms and I closed it in 2030 but a lot

1314
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:27,760
of it still archived on internet

1315
00:58:33,970 --> 00:58:29,450
references to things that I'm

1316
00:58:35,950 --> 00:58:33,980
researching for 2009 luckily working

1317
00:58:41,830 --> 00:58:35,960
with that and I've also started a small

1318
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:41,840
website at true proof web Scott if

1319
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:44,000
anybody wants to look on that and we

1320
00:58:48,250 --> 00:58:45,710
have a Facebook page truth proof

1321
00:58:51,340 --> 00:58:48,260
Facebook page and anybody that after

1322
00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:51,350
listening to me want to famine be on

1323
00:58:55,330 --> 00:58:53,870
Facebook is Paul Sinclair I'm sure I'm

1324
00:58:57,700 --> 00:58:55,340
sure I'll be able to be found with lists

1325
00:59:01,390 --> 00:58:57,710
of friends the view of your own and

1326
00:59:03,010 --> 00:59:01,400
people and basically I think we've

1327
00:59:05,260 --> 00:59:03,020
probably telling the books available on

1328
00:59:07,450 --> 00:59:05,270
Amazon for some reason at the moment

1329
00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:07,460
it's not available in America it was I

1330
00:59:11,650 --> 00:59:09,740
don't know why I we've tried to get it

1331
00:59:14,260 --> 00:59:11,660
back back up and selling I know that

1332
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:14,270
Deborah Jane East has tried for me but

1333
00:59:16,990 --> 00:59:15,890
we kept with we just seems to be going

1334
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:17,000
around in circles

1335
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:19,430
however I've set up a PayPal account on

1336
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:20,730
the troops

1337
00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:23,640
website if anybody did want the book I

1338
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:25,950
assure you it will be sent out straight

1339
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:28,950
away and and it's also available on

1340
00:59:34,430 --> 00:59:31,410
Kindle and any questions that you want

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to direct at me up there on the website

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on Facebook I'm more than happy to try

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an answer thank you so much for coming

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on you're welcome thank you believer

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that evidence is overwhelming to the

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skeptic there will never be enough

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thank you everyone god bless you have a

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wonderful weekend and we'll see you next

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good night everyone

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feminine wash different it's simple

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seriously that's the answer

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it's made with simple ingredients

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ingredients that help stop odour and

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help you maintain a naturally healthy pH

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gently and effectively here's what

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simply summer's eve ingredients do not

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include harsh chemicals dyes alcohol or

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parabens and a comforting light

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refreshing scents like Mandarin blossom

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and coconut water new simply summer's

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eve gentle foaming wash and cleansing